Joelly: What I'm about to say is really quite frightening: last year in IT class at high school there were only three girls in a class of 36. And one of us gave up! It's actually quite sad.
Absa: I think things are starting to change because girls are better informed now. Personally, if BecomTech hadn't come looking for me I wouldn't even know what tech is.
Joelly: People don't know about the power of programming. One day I realized: you start from a blank screen and you can create anything. It's like a book. You give everyone a sheet of white paper and some will write Harry Potter and others will write, say, a philosophy essay. It's all a question of what you want to do.
So it's important to tell everyone: 'look, this is something you can do too'. Becomtech has been really useful in that way. It gives us a jump start and then afterwards we can get on with it how we like.
Absa: That's true. I've learned so much by doing. Before, I knew nothing about programming. Now, it's another skill to add to my list and it's something I can share with other people.